Choosing faith-fullness
Transcriptions are written records of KK channeling Jonathan during Evenings with Jonathan Get-to-gathers, in which Jonathan responds to participants’ quest-ions on personal-universal themes.
Infused with thought-provoking, love-invoking wisdom, each transcript offers practical application for spiritual revelation.
In this transcription, Jonathan touches on themes including but no limited to:
The power of We
conducting Light
the intelligence of bodies
creating new language to liberate spiritual truths
how to cultivate faith
June 3 2020
Jonathan: Welcome! And while we feel that it is a good eve in many respects, dear ones, we also understand the nature at hand of the times of transformation within which are arising rising-ups and spewing that is much needed with respect to previous compressions. So we welcome you to this eve's not so much eve-vent, but it is indeed a potent gathering of souls. One of the questions that has been seeping through is 'What can I do with something so monumentally large, vast and beyond the beyond?’ How can I have an impact that will bend the directional pull toward love - and a sense of communal divinity that abounds within each of your inner residences? And one of the things we do feel would be of utility for every person on the planet is fully embracing the divine within, which is a cause of violence when you go without. One of the biggest sources of oppression is when an individual, or divided self, does not recognize their own connectivity to All That Is all ways. When the ‘Self’ is held with love, that love flows throughout the bodily systems and emanates. So the more you hold yourSelves in high esteem, the more you can benefit each other with respect. We invite inquiries at this transformational time, Welcome!
L: Good evening, Jonathan. So do you see all? Like, do you know outcomes other than what our free will dictates? Do you have an overview of... yeah, I guess like most people, we feel so out of control. I feel very brokenhearted (voice cracking).
Jonathan: Can we reassure you it's going to be okay with our sight?
L: Yeah. (tearfully) Yeah.
Jonathan: So what we can say, dear one, is in the collective dismay, there is actually an opportunity for collective mourning. And when you have mourned as a collective or with a community there is an opportunity for cohesion, and coalescence of the essence of the issue at hand, which is bigger than even one body, or many bodies, but involves and invokes all bodies, including spiritual bodies. When physical and mental bodies fail in colossal ways, there is a turning away from what was previously dependable in providing stability. We do not see all, because we don't find it useful to have a vision of what has yet to be envisioned. Now is a time for opening to new visions. What would a reassuring vision for you look like? If we said yes, X, Y, and Z will occur, what would X, Y, and Z be?
L: For there not to be a lynch mob mentality towards people of color, especially black people, as we've been seeing. I fear for my family, my nephew, my friend, my whole life. It would be good to see more love and acceptance. People aren't even aware of the way they're racist. Maybe it first starts with the individual, like you were saying.
Jonathan: Acceptance of what, dear one?
L: Acceptance of everyone who is not a white man or white. You were saying that when there is more love within the individual for themselves it makes a difference in the way they act to other people. Maybe that's the biggest thing. Self hatred, I don’t know.
Jonathan: A lot of the racism and hatred that has run rampant is about using the other person as a point of reference. There is a comparative act that surreptitiously runs through the unconscious mind and says ‘In order to feel okay about myself I’m going to find someone I can be ‘higher’ than.’. Without that, you're left with yourself. For hatred-fueled people that's unbearable. It’s what they seek to circumvent - being left with their own judgments. As long as they can projectile the self hatred, they no longer need appease those whose judgments have been internalized. There is a connection between ‘lynch mob’ and a collective backward desire to earn permission to exist by imposing a pseudo sense of superiority. When you feel superior, you feel increased permission. But permission, because it's not coming from an upright source, becomes permissive of dismissiveness and violence. One of the things that would be transformational in a population, a culture, globally and cosmically speaking, is for each human being to turn towards themselves and love. It does call for acceptance, but you can't give what you don't have. It must start at home. Within. People now have an opportunity to start something at home that they didn't have before. What would you like others to accept that you feel has yet to be understood?
L: There is a lack of acceptance, a way of looking at people that are not white or that have less money, or even the way men look at women. That's an ism that's sick.
Jonathan: It's a hierarchical comparison. Comparison requires an 'other.' It’s projecting your lack of self-acceptance into a perceived otherness other than you.
L: Exactly. Yes. What you're saying is it has to start at home. If people have self loathing for themselves they're not able to accept within themselves, then they look for an other.
Jonathan: Well, what we can say is if they have loathing, they have self-loathing.
L: Right. So it does start at home. I'm hopeful. I'm a Light warrior. It's just been really hard. (tearfully). I feel like I'm supposed to step up and be this Light warrior, but some part is dying. I know that's not happening and I'm strong.
Jonathan: Oh, but it is, dear one! What's dying is the belief that things will change without a collective coalition. There's been a lot of underlying hope that someday things will be different. That hope is collapsing and dying. And like all deaths, it creates a spaciousness for something new to be born. We wish to speak to the words 'supposed to.' What you're supposed to do is the judgment of another.
L: (tearing up)
Jonathan: So one of the most potent acts that a Light warrior can allow, dear one, is the conduction of light. And you can have tears of light. Did you know that?
L: I do now. (laughing) I've called them Holy water before.
Jonathan: Tears shed can help collective mourning. You’re not supposed to, but you're allowed to cry, to be fully human and feel the unacknowledged depths. It injects softening into a formerly rigid system that has broken open. Broken open means that there is room to grow. Much remains to be seen and heard and spoken about where this leads, because it's not a singular point, but it can be a turning point. Its fulcrum can open to a collective humane acknowledgment of the right to be as is, provided it doesn't harm another who is actually a brother or sister or other like you.
L: In this opening, we can create what we want, that vision that we've got to do the work and shed the tears and hold space.
Jonathan: Indeed. We heard you say we. Those two letters are quite potent. Not to be underestimated. They increase in value with every utterance. So we, we, we a lot these days! Inflect those thoughts and sentences with multiple we's. You'll find something else will begin to open up. Because we includes no 'other.' It includes all.
L: Right. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Jonathan: There are no 'others' in we's. No comparative suffixes or inflections. We must accept ourselves as is before we can accept others as are. Accepting is different from condoning or ceasing to seek evolution. It's a funny word. Ideally it's a given.
L: Yeah. I guess that that's the problem. That it's not given to people.
Jonathan: Indeed, it's not a given, and it's often taken away early on, dear one. And you're told you can earn it. Quite disorienting and untrue.
L: Yeah, especially when you have to keep earning and your earning isn't good enough.
Jonathan: Well, if you have to earn it, it's never good enough.
L: That's deep.
Jonathan: How do you earn your humanity? How much does that cost? It's not something that's quantitative at all.
L: No.(crying)
Jonathan: So we thank you, dear one, for your question and for your warrioressness. And in deed, dear one. Tears are deeds.
L: Thank you. Thank you. Okay. (laughing) That will help.
Catharine: Thank you, L. M, I saw that you had your hand up earlier.
M: Yeah. Okay. I've been wondering a lot about you, Jonathan, and I'm curious. I would like to have more of your perspective (laughing). How do I do that? Can I do that?
Jonathan: What perspective would you like more of, dear one? We'll give it to you.
M: (laughing) Well, I'm attracted to your precision of language. And broader understanding of humanity. How’d you get that? Where does your wisdom come from?
Jonathan: It helps not to have to deal with a body. (laughing) We say that with mirth and also truth dear one, because we don't have the same concerns or the same things to judge. We don't care what we look like, sound like, feel like. We live without judgments of self because we don't have a self. Do you follow?
M: I think so. So you are a we.
Jonathan: Indeed we are a collective, and we agree to merge with benevolent forces that appear in our dimensional realm. One thing we can say that you did point to, is precision of language. We encourage each and every one of you to consider more fully your chosen words for communication, communing and co-unioning, because the more precise you can be, the more meaning can be exchanged, conferred, acknowledged and spread. Precision has a sharpness to it. Think about a large beam of light being conducted through a tiny funnel and your word is that funnel. Tiny in terms of what you can fit into it, but forceful in magnitude, as anyone who's ever recollected harmful, hurtful words can tell you. One of the things that gets lost in times of trauma, tragedy, and troubles is the power of precise language to transform hearts, minds, societies, situations and perspectives. There is a misperception that there is such a thing as otherness, something expressed linguistically with comparatives. Imagine if you didn't have any comparatives in your language. Nobody could be better, worse, uglier, dumber. Do you follow?
M: Yes, definitely. It's about measuring. I am often writing about people measuring. What if we took measure away? Measure is a kind of comparison.
Jonathan: Indeed, so the more precise you can be with your own words, the more meaningful your exchanges and experiences can be. That means choosing the most fitting carrier. One of the things that allows you a lot of options is reading, because you become exposed to previously unknown messengers of meaning. The more vocabulary you have, the more options you have. It's not about developing a hierarchical intellectual capacity, it's about having a reservoir of possibilities to choose from and creatively combine to spell something. What do you want to spell with your words? There is a certain truth that the combination of letters and words that make up sentences leads to spelling. If you could, with each and every sentence or group of words cast a spell, what would that be? One of the things dear warrieress L termed helpful was acceptance. What if you could cast a spell of acceptance for everyone you encountered? What would it sound like if pure acceptance of your interlocutor was the basis of your sentence? The more you choose your words, the more you incite your holy creativity, the more connectivity you feel with your Creator and the more acceptance as a given of your Godlikeness. When you can embrace and acknowledge and name that Godlikeness, that godness, which is different from goodness, when you can Know it with your felt intelligence, then you can widen your understanding of humanity. It's in the exercising of that connectivity, that willing spark that agrees to light up with levity and clarity. So does that sound enticing?
M: Definitely. Thank you. I love you, Jonathan.
Jonathan: And we have love for you, dear one. Much, much love and much continued reading and culling and inviting in new terms and inventing them. All of you, let's have a challenge! If you had just one or two words to use at this current time to emanate your Lightness and vision, what would those two words be?
M: Unity is a word that comes a lot. Unity.
Jonathan: Unity. So begin choosing it, dear one. Begin speaking about it. Writing about it. Invite the word more fully into your world- our world. Much love. And unity!.
Catharine: Thank you, M. O, did you have a question? I see your hand up.
O: Yes. Thank you. I want to speak about this particular time we're all in. And what feels to me like a true transformation. I've seen the battle from a distance. Friends who have told me about the specific suffering of being a black person in this country. But I've never been involved in movements. I've watched them since the sixties, and it's always a battle, battle, battle. This time feels different. I've seen things that look new to me and in my body. I was trying to think, what does this feel like? This strange sensation, this distracted and deep fatigue and feeling ravaged. I realized it reminds me of being in labor to give birth. I feel like this is happening through all our bodies. And because it's such a real change, not just, ‘somebody said some nice things…’ It’s like it's happening on a large and cellular level… I want guidance in it. I don't know that I can do a particular thing, but I feel this is coming through our bodies.
Jonathan: We have some guidance after all, dear one: continue following your guidance. Could you hear how much of what you just said was a reflection of where you're being guided? To your and our bodies. If the body and your body and our bodies can't assimilate it, it doesn't change. It's no coincidence that one of the most striking things in the horrors of the times is what was done to a human being’s body.
O: Right. Yes. Yes.
Jonathan: And that's different than what people thought. Or what they might think. It’s what their own permissiveness permitted them to do to a body, not with a body. When you sense the brilliance of your own bodies, dear one, you can impact more fully any situation at hand, because the truth has more integrity, more wholesomeness, when it includes all the intelligences. You can't have an educated opinion without including the wisdom of the body. There is room for inclusion of the felt sense. There's actually not much difference between the body and the spiritual body. It's language that has demarcated or bifurcated or separated them. This is a time like no other to open to honoring bodies. But you can't give what you don't let yourself receive. So the more acceptance of the whole of who you are-perceived deficiencies and all-the more wholesome pleasure. The more you revere your own body, the more reverence becomes available for other bodies. There are infinite ways to revere your body, including sexually, solely and soul-y. Let's reorient and see if we've responded to some of your wonderments.
O: Yes. I feel it so clearly from time to time. How interconnected all these bodies are in me, but of course that has to be the starting place here on planet Earth.
Jonathan: Indeed. Imagine if that was your body. Most people don't want to go there. For many people It's enough simply to witness the horror. Enough as in exceeding the bounds of where they've limited their own visions, dear one. If everyone revered and honored their bodies, there would be a total cessation of the violence currently unhinged in the collective culture. Because what is done is done to bodies. You can harm someone with your thoughts, but with the entrenched systemic harms that have gone unchecked, it in all ways involves bodily harm. So what would bodily harmony look like? We challenge all the artists in the room! What would a body artist look like? Is that a viable profession? How many esteemed professions include the term body? There's a lot of opportunity to innovate language to include terms that support body reverence. And anti-aging isn't one of them! Quite different from pro-saging, as the channel likes to say. For those who didn't live through the sixties and other turbulent times where oppression was refuted and diluted with policies, what is different now? What do you sense and see that shows you something anew has arisen?
O: Oh, I see different actions. And I see people being called on things they've done, like spray painting in the name of somebody who didn't want it spray painted.
Jonathan: Collective accountability.
O: Yes, accountability is immediate. I mean, it's visible immediately. And also that there are white people in power taking a knee.
Jonathan: So an acknowledgement of solidarity.
O: But I feel like there is conscience flickering around in that, there is something about conscience coming into the world and people are hearing what all the Black Lives Matter people are saying. So that is new! That they're actually hearing.
Jonathan: Which is a bit different than listening, but it's a good start.
O: Yeah, I think there's a lot of good starts. People on social media are like "About time!" There’s little sparks here and there where in the past there was only a battle.
Jonathan: What you're describing is the co-creation of a new group conscience. And indeed conscience does dictate behavior. And what you must do or not do to experience your own belongingness.
O: Even if it's not all active listening, there is some hearing. I saw a video of a black woman telling off all these guys in horrible Darth Vader outfits. 'What are you doing?!’ Eventually they had no stance against her and melted back from what she was saying. It wasn't, 'Let's listen to this woman!', but it was like she got through to a certain extent.
Jonathan: And we're willing to gather that her language was quite precise. So again, the power of the word to infuse upright action.
O: Ha-ha! Yes it was! And the power of the body to stand there and be able to say it.
Jonathan: And allow the feeling of it. Because what is stored in bodies is often the equivalent of what has been disallowed and disavowed, which creates extreme disconnections. You can do to an ‘other’ what you won't do to a lover. At the heart of all spiritual traditions is Oneness, not Otherness. We can see the need for contemporary creative language that does not encapsulate, but liberates these spiritual truths. The unity that has yet to be conferred in lexical terms that can be incorporated, put into the corpus. Time for creativity, linguistically speaking. If you look at all movements, it’s the sentiment expressed with words that marks them. Remember 'I have a dream?' Look at "I can't breathe." Those are onomatopoeic, visceral words. Body words.
O: Right. That's where truth comes from, it seems like. It can't be truth if it's not connected to the body.
Jonathan: Indeed. Notice that one of the differences that you spoke of is that now part of the ongoing discussion involves black bodies, a term that wasn't allowed, or knowable, previously speaking. So it's landing. When it lands in bodies, it lands. Thanks to your ongoing willingness to create new structures, dear One.
O: Thank you.
Catharine: Thank you. A, did you have a question you wanted to ask?
A: Thank you so much. There's sooo much beauty tonight! It's really exciting! I have a question about faith. And what it is. And on a personal note, how can you help me have more of it? (laughing) Because I've been finding it hard to come by. I don't know if any of us can feel the difference between our personal and collective lives. That's part of the question: how to have faith that my personal life is going to work out in ways that I want it to, and how that intersects with having faith that the planet will be around in order to enjoy it. So it's a multi-leveled question about faith and what it is and how to cultivate it or how to experience or find or feel it.
Jonathan: So our first question to your many questions, dear one, is why do you want to have more of something that you don't know what it is to begin with?
A: Good question! My reference point is when I was a lot younger. I believed things were much more possible. Like a default. I had doubts, but 80%, I was ‘Yeah, I am going to do this and this will happen. And year after year when those things don't happen, not just external outcomes but also internal experiences, it's eroded. Now I'm like, oh, maybe 20% might come to pass. So it's a huge reversal of that abundant feeling I had when I was younger.
Jonathan: Indeed, the object of desire at the time, dear one, has changed for you. In other words, faith, as for many people, was quite a noun. A person, place or thing. Some thing that you could have, like an object. A bit more abstract in nature, but still something to procure. In the languaging, faith includes the term choice. Faith is connected to choosing a certain hope fullness or, a stance on behalf of hope fullness. So faith involves choice. It's not something that can be easily procured if it's never been chosen. One thing we feel could be navigational for you during these transformational times is to release the formally familiar noun version and adopt a current adjective and think in terms of faith fullness. Do you want to be full of faith? Let's make it something that you can be faith-full of. A more orientational way to cultivate the faith fullness you're aspiring to, is to ask yourself what is it that you choose to be faithful to? Do you choose to be faithful to the belief that no matter how hard you hope, it won't work out 80% or that your past experience will determine your future? Or do you choose to be faith-full that no matter what you hope, something will benefit you on your behalf, even if it doesn't look like what you thought? So faith fullness involves a fuller version of what’s possible. One that includes and extends beyond your personal prescriptions. Do you follow?
A: Well. (laughing) What really went in and struck me so deeply as such a gift is I've never thought of faith as being about being faithful to what you want to have faith about. Like, I never understood that before, and maybe I misunderstood you, but I got something great anyway! (laughing)
Jonathan: Excellent! We'll take it!
A: In other words, like if you were wanting a person to be faithful to you, for example, then it has a lot to do with that you've chosen ‘I'm going to be faithful to that person.’ I never thought of being faithful to, for example, wanting peace on earth, or instead of thinking, Oh, well I'll have faith if something comes and enters me, or if I cultivate it in some rigorous way (laughing) as opposed to I'm going to stay faithful that that can happen! You know that I want that and I love that and I believe in it and I value it and I'll work for it and and and live for it!
Jonathan: Indeed! You're giving the channel’s body the chills!
A: Yeah, me too! You know, and so much disappointment in my personal life and on the planet right now. You're helping me be reminded. Well, you know, tough! I still love what I love and I still believe in what I love. And I'm going to stay faithful to what I love regardless of how it all looks out there. But damn, it takes a lot of endurance, which is what L was saying - you're smiling L is smiling.
Jonathan: And courage, dear One. Endurance and courage.
A: As O was saying, we're tired. It takes so much energy to keep caring and believing that goodness is there and possible. Thanks for helping me understand that word better.
Jonathan: In deed. Much faith-fullness to you going forward. And to all of you!
A: Yes. That was beautiful. Thank you all.
Jonathan: So with that, we will conclude and say indeed what an honor, pleasure and de-light to be in the presence of your Light. And we know that there are some heavy hearts arising in these transformational times. We revere your capacity and willingness to move faith-fully through the tumult and troubledness that abounds and resound with a new way, a harmonizing way to honor and revere and enjoy and receive pleasure from bodies, Dear ones. Much, much love to all your bodies.